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TWAS, if the defender (who can’t tackle legally) steps aside, he might find his contact torn up on the playing field.
A football-style walk-out won't work in NRL, so how can fans be heard amid crackdown nonsense?
Souvalis, do you mean my reference to Rugby?
A football-style walk-out won't work in NRL, so how can fans be heard amid crackdown nonsense?
Mate, red & yellow cards are dished out in Rugby “a dime a dozen”. After International & Super Rugby games, commentary on “The Roar” forum is overwhelming discussing the pros and cons of such incidents with the role of TMO’s, in particular, being heavily criticised.
A football-style walk-out won't work in NRL, so how can fans be heard amid crackdown nonsense?
Agree that the shoulder charge is illegal under the rules. It was a fairly soft outcome in the end with neither Sorensen or Brown effected by the collision. Brown did not even have an HIA so I’m presuming there was no head contact. To me, it was an innocuous shoulder charge with no intent to injure Brown. Yes, it was against the rules like a lot of things that happen in a game. Hypothetically, it could have been much worse if he tackled him at chest level with the possibility of his arm connecting with Brown’s head. My main gripe (and I’m no Penrith supporter), is not the binning but the suspension of 3 weeks that Sorensen received. Over the top by at least 2 matches.
A football-style walk-out won't work in NRL, so how can fans be heard amid crackdown nonsense?
The NRL has failed to properly act in this area for some-time now. IMO, these “high contact” issues will continue until the NRL makes radical changes to the game. For starters, to allow for 3-4-5 defenders to tackle 1 player (often from his head to his toes) is now out-dated. Following each tackle, the ruck area has become a joke. Leaning, pushing and shoving is now common-place. Delaying “playing the ball” is common-place. But it all starts with defenders, as they are undoubtedly coached, mostly hitting players high and holding them up rather than putting them to the ground. Low tackles normally put attackers to the ground quickly. Given the fact that 3-4 defenders are in each tackle, there is no room for the orthodox low tackle to be effected. So, it doesn’t happen. And it’s a no-no from the coach’s perspective, has been for ages. I don’t understand why the NRL has band-aid solutions to the current problems.
A football-style walk-out won't work in NRL, so how can fans be heard amid crackdown nonsense?
Lorry, you have got to be kidding with that last comment.
A football-style walk-out won't work in NRL, so how can fans be heard amid crackdown nonsense?
Joey’s comment was not off the mark at all in that situation. Brown ran faster and more aggressively than most and there would not be one NRL player who would have taken him low-down for fear of self-injury. Sorensen is generally a clean player who naturally braced himself. Joey knows exactly how and why it happened. No one got hurt. Brown didn’t even have a HIA. The punishment dealt out to Sorensen was way off the mark. The NRL need to take stock and stop promoting the game as the most toughest and aggressive sport on earth – self-fulfilling prophecies eventuate.
A football-style walk-out won't work in NRL, so how can fans be heard amid crackdown nonsense?
Danny, I’m an old bugger too. I have seen (and heard) this word mangled so often, I decided to pick on you. I try to be accurate with my spelling & terminology because most of my Rugby views get challenged which leaves me very despondent. I liked your calm response.
Super Rugby's officials must stop refereeing on outcome, why RA should let Gordon go - five things
Danny, Danny, first line of your message reads incorrectly and makes no sense ” I …… would OF been a red card. Read that again and hopefully you see the error. It should read would’ve or would HAVE ….. Come on mate, we all have a responsibility to get a pass in English.
Super Rugby's officials must stop refereeing on outcome, why RA should let Gordon go - five things
Coker, one of the more sensible comments on this subject matter.
'Wouldn't have put myself in this position': 'Disappointed' Folau hits out at RA after new firestorm
I say, let’s be fair dinkum. At worst it was silly. He didn’t collect the guy in the head (despite the recipient holding his head as if he had been shot) and yellow card was sufficient. Why in every game now, are people wanting players red-carded for “boys will be boys” incidents. So much time is wasted over what have been known for years as trivial incidents. Get on with the game for God-sakes and may the better team win.
France win Six Nations after hooker evades send-off for flying headbutt, England sink Wales in record romp
If the TMO allowed it, it surely was the correct decision. They check a lot of incidents these days and more often than not, a player is punished, even when accidents happen. To suggest that “other players will have observed and try it on next week” is simply fanciful. I will never defend REAL foul play however, I suggest stop looking for things to have players unfairly dismissed from the field in a body contact sport.
The Wrap: Failed attempt to game HIA process calls Super Rugby integrity into question
Mate, at least the players decided the result of the game, 15 against 15. That’s what we want more of, not this repeated guessing game of issuance of cards.
The Wrap: Failed attempt to game HIA process calls Super Rugby integrity into question
Yep, the game has given itself huge problems around these absurd cards issues.
'We saw Neymar': Skelton sent off as coach rages over rival's dive in 'dark day for rugby'
There are dives and then there are dives. This one was a “dive” but he did receive head contact so a bit difficult in this circumstance to go down that path.
'We saw Neymar': Skelton sent off as coach rages over rival's dive in 'dark day for rugby'
In today’s world lacking common-sense, yes. In a normal world, ridiculous when pure acting was the deciding factor.
'We saw Neymar': Skelton sent off as coach rages over rival's dive in 'dark day for rugby'
Just a try you say. The game is all about preventing tries. It’s pretty serious stuff at the level we watch you would hopefully agree. If the game was played in slow motion, like the TV replays that TMO’s love to watch and make decisions upon, tackling would be easy. Unfortunately, there are quickly moving parts in both the attacker and defender which make tackling ever so more difficult. And sometimes, things go unintentionally wrong. That’s the concern I have. Reputations of innocent players are being ruined by current interpretations. I think people on this forum have a hide in making comment as to how elite players should or should not tackle.
'Very surprised': Reds cop massive blow as Paisami hit with ban despite not being shown a card for high shot
Muglair, the game itself exposes players to risks of all types of injuries. I don’t have any statistics to rely upon however I am very confident that only a small percentage of past players would have suffered brain injury. The game has been mightily cleaned-up over the past say, 5 years but you will never stop body-collisions and accidental head-knocks whether or not you identify and suspend so-called ” foul-play offenders”. Unless of course you change the integrity of the game which I believe WR will eventually achieve and then the game won’t be watchable which it almost is now.
'Very surprised': Reds cop massive blow as Paisami hit with ban despite not being shown a card for high shot
Because they will look foolish trying to explain themselves. There is never any one appropriate technique to perform any given tackle.
'Very surprised': Reds cop massive blow as Paisami hit with ban despite not being shown a card for high shot
Muglair, I’m really bemused by the fact that you seem to have the answer to what a player should and shouldn’t do in every tackle, that every tackle is straight-forward and should be effected in a particular manner. You even suggest in Paisami’s case that one choice he had was to do nothing. Really, at almost an International level of football, to do nothing??? I’m sorry, that is plain nonsense and should be disputed by everyone using this forum who has played the game at least at 1st grade level. And to put you straight, NRL does not have a tackle school. Nowhere near a red card or penalty try, why you suggest a team loses a player as well as points in this circumstance is bewildering. I want teams to score legitimate points, not from some referee’s guessing game.
'Very surprised': Reds cop massive blow as Paisami hit with ban despite not being shown a card for high shot
Mate, have a crack. The passion is there and I’m sure that you would be no worse than the current mob.
'Very surprised': Reds cop massive blow as Paisami hit with ban despite not being shown a card for high shot
No but it does seem that you would fit perfectly into their current system with those opinions.
'Very surprised': Reds cop massive blow as Paisami hit with ban despite not being shown a card for high shot
I agree OB that that is true what you say. However, WR has introduced so many stupid rules that just occasionally, with a bit of luck, they might consider introducing a sensible rule like you suggest.
'Very surprised': Reds cop massive blow as Paisami hit with ban despite not being shown a card for high shot
Exactly who does the teaching at tackle school to these elite players and how do they teach the 227 types of tackle situations a player may be confronted with in any one match? It’s also interesting to imagine the NRL establishing such a school & sending the likes of Nathan Cleary, Ben Hunt, Cameron Murray etc to them after falling foul of their laws. Outrageous is one word that comes to mind.
'Very surprised': Reds cop massive blow as Paisami hit with ban despite not being shown a card for high shot
Sorry for late response. IMO, I doubt whether League would follow anything instigated by Union authorities. In Union, the issuance of red/yellow cards have become so numerous over the last say, 2 years, the result of many games has become a lottery. The involvement of TMO’s as well as the actions of referees and touch-judges standing still in the middle of the ground watching a screen with slow-motion replays while players just mill around is a blot on the game. Many innocent players have been cruelled by what you can only describe as accidental contact and have suffered penalties far beyond what they should have suffered. I reckon league was doing a reasonable job sorting out the problems until the last couple of weeks when common-sense was discarded.
A football-style walk-out won't work in NRL, so how can fans be heard amid crackdown nonsense?